Joop truck - I have some concerns

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 11/28/2018 at 11:32 • Filed to: None

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If there is one thing I know about pickup drivers is that they ALWAYS secure their load properly, with rated straps, nets and tarps.

I sure hope the hardtop is standard.

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 11:43

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You think there’s gonna be anything back there besides a Yeti cooler and a two Pelican cases loaded with titanium cookware ?

vicali > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 11:47

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Seemed like a good idea at the time, then again, so did this;

HammerheadFistpunch > adamftw 11/28/2018 at 11:47

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a yeti cooler could mess a fella up.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > vicali 11/28/2018 at 11:53

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Well he did get down eventually anyway.

CobraJoe > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 11:53

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Not that a standard rear window is that much protection against flying cargo. 

HammerheadFistpunch > CobraJoe 11/28/2018 at 11:55

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The aperture of a closed cab truck is much much smaller, even if it bre ak s the glass a lot less is coming through.  to say nothing of the fact the fact that it wouldn’t take glass breaking force to have something really hurt a passenger.  

vicali > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 11/28/2018 at 11:55

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and nothing of value was lost..

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > vicali 11/28/2018 at 11:56

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That’ll buff right out anyway.

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:01

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It’ll be secured using some bespoke cargo tie downs from Frontrunner or something, don’t worry.

HammerheadFistpunch > adamftw 11/28/2018 at 12:03

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im not as worried about the broverland crowd...they are all about the cnc’d $200 fire extinguisher brackets...Im worried about mud bogger Matt. and home depot harry.

Just Jeepin' > vicali 11/28/2018 at 12:07

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That was a TJ. Bite your tongue.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:09

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Same could be said about the “cargo” area of every CUV/SUV/Wagon/Minivan/Etc.

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:12

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Darwin is what Darwin does.

vicali > Just Jeepin' 11/28/2018 at 12:12

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Here’s my penance..

HammerheadFistpunch > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/28/2018 at 12:12

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O nly they aren’t 5 x 4 foot open air boxes.  There is a practical limit for what you can stuff into the opening of a wagon door and what kinds of thing you would put in there.  

DipodomysDeserti > vicali 11/28/2018 at 12:15

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When sending it does wrong.

CobraJoe > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:16

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Fair points. Though I’d put it a fairly minor concern overall, between distance an unsecured load would have to travel, or the amount of force it would take to shift a large load over the edge of the bed, and the likelihood of any unstable load being secured.

Hearing a load bounce around without a window damp ening the sound might inspire more people to invest in ratchet straps too.

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:19

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Difference is that open air box at least has a divider between it and the driver’s seat.

Any of the above with the seats folded to carry things have nothing between the cargo and the driver’s seat.

Simple groceries could kill you in a car crash when they’re flying around the passenger compartment, yet no one seems to worry about that when loading up their CUV/SUV/Wagon/Minivan/Etc. Nor do they worry about shoving a fridge/stove/dishwasher  unsecured right behind their heads.

HammerheadFistpunch > CobraJoe 11/28/2018 at 12:19

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O ne hopes. The thing that popped into my mine when I saw it is that the aerodynamics of closed cab trucks tends to created a high pressure area in the bed that allows the airflow to go over the bed, keeping loose items in place...which is why you can toss stuff in the bed and it will stay there. What happens with the doors off? The roof? The windshield down?  Im partly worried about the heavy or mess stuff that can come flying in...and im partly worried about light objects being sucked into the passenger area at high speed.  

Just Jeepin' > vicali 11/28/2018 at 12:20

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Whoa

HammerheadFistpunch > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/28/2018 at 12:24

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securing your load in any vehicle is important, lets put that right out there. When I travel with my family and something heavy like my recovery gear, my camp fridge or really anything heavier than soft goods like blankets I tie them down to hard points. I think you would reckless not to. That being said...this is a pickup truck and people are going to not think twice about anything that fits below the bed level without securing it. The other worry of course is the open air bit. What happens if you have a suburban with all the seats down and you have something light in the back with all the windows down? It whips around the cabin. Imagine a pickup bed full of relatively light objects that has no aerodynamic reason to stay in the bed and every motivation to seek out areas of lower pressure (the cab). Oh and a LOT more airflow.

ranwhenparked > Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness 11/28/2018 at 12:28

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Tom Mix was killed by an unsecured suitcase in the back seat.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:36

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Side note: I’ve hauled a piano over 1000 miles without it touching the side of the bed or a wheel well. Just tied down in the center of the bed well.

Eagle scout, MFers!

HammerheadFistpunch > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 11/28/2018 at 12:40

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well played fellow eagle.  

CobraJoe > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:46

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You bring up a good point. I wonder how that would affect airflow across the bed, it’s possible that small loose items would still remain in place, it is still a pretty deep well after all.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 13:38

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Good point.

functionoverfashion > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 11/29/2018 at 09:27

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What’s that about tying down a piano?

functionoverfashion > HammerheadFistpunch 11/29/2018 at 09:32

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This is a valid concern, however, it’s not every day that something heavy is going to make it up through there into the cab. However, in my experience with trucks, it IS every day that leaves, pine needles, sand, dust, etc. blows forward toward the back of the pickup due to the air flow over the cab and into the bed. This is always the thing I picture happening in an Avalanche when/if you ever opened that entire rear wall to put that Sheet of Plywood in the bed That One Time. I picture all that sand/dust/debris coming straight for my eyes once I reach about 40mph, not to mention covering everything else.